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returntothepit >> discuss >> What scale does Necrophagist write in? by immortal13 on Feb 24,2008 12:29pm
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toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 24,2008 12:29pm
I can't find anything on it. I've found tabs to their songs (which are fucking hard to learn by the way), but it doesn't say anything about the scales.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 24,2008 12:35pm
Wait, are we under the impression that they just use one scale? I mean, I don't know that this isn't the case, but it seems weird.



toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 12:38pm
melodic minor, harmonic minor, minor, major arpeggios, minor arpeggios,
arpeggios from hell, oh yea and====> DIMINISHED<=====. DUH

good luck learning it, the leads are so fuckin tough. STABWOUND!!!!!!!!! (a lot better than the new stabwound song by some local band) teehee, that's a good song too though.



toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 12:39pm
ps, i want credit on the next song you write that is all necrophagist sounding.




toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 24,2008 12:43pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Wait, are we under the impression that they just use one scale? I mean, I don't know that this isn't the case, but it seems weird.


Good point. I'm assuming they use more than one.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 24,2008 12:44pm
action%20hero said[orig][quote]
melodic minor, harmonic minor, minor, major arpeggios, minor arpeggios,
arpeggios from hell, oh yea and====> DIMINISHED<=====. DUH

good luck learning it, the leads are so fuckin tough. STABWOUND!!!!!!!!! (a lot better than the new stabwound song by some local band) teehee, that's a good song too though.


I also know the scales are a neo-classical style thing. That's about it. Definitely keeping that stuff in mind. Thanks!



toggletoggle post by ZenErik   at Feb 24,2008 1:07pm
Mostly harmonic minor with diminished arpeggios. I'm not a big fan, but they do use a lot of neo-classical ideas. So, there's probably some IV, or V chords in minor, neopolitan chords...(flat major 2nd)...



toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 1:09pm
learn the shit i was talkin about, you will find that it sounds neoclassical if you learn how.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 24,2008 1:10pm


LIKE DIS?



toggletoggle post by ZenErik   at Feb 24,2008 1:12pm
Yes. You'll find that there isn't a big difference in chords between Necrophagist and a lot of the more dissonant power/symphonic metal bands. Necrophagist will just probably use more diminished (and even more wanking).



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Feb 24,2008 1:41pm edited Feb 24,2008 1:43pm


pick this up. it will aid in your shredding desires.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 24,2008 1:43pm
they write in metalcore choruses scale



toggletoggle post by fleshfries at Feb 24,2008 1:54pm
I'd focus on Harmonic Minor and Diminished for Necrophagist sounding stuff.



toggletoggle post by archaeon at Feb 24,2008 2:22pm
Muhammad doesn't use "scales" he just writes what sounds good. I've never really understood this "omg wut scale does iron maiden play in?" type questions. Doesn't really matter. Don't base your writing around scales or it'll come out shitty most of the time.

Necrophagist does A LOT of minor 3rd harmonies A LOT.



toggletoggle post by ZenErik   at Feb 24,2008 2:25pm
archaeon said[orig][quote]
Muhammad doesn't use "scales" he just writes what sounds good. I've never really understood this "omg wut scale does iron maiden play in?" type questions. Doesn't really matter. Don't base your writing around scales or it'll come out shitty most of the time.

Necrophagist does A LOT of minor 3rd harmonies A LOT.

Almost everyone writes around scales, whether they know it or not. And no, it doesn't come out shitty if you know music theory.

As for writing in moving minor 3rd harmonies...That generally indicates DIMINISHED.



toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 7:47pm
since when does harmonizing in a minor 3rd indicate diminished? you can harmonize anything in thirds. and it's my theory that you should know theory but use it a way to explore your own way of playing. theory is a theory, and is not the only way you can play music. just don't suck.



toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 7:48pm
that said, archaeon is the best guitarist to have responded so far.... next to me obviously.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Feb 24,2008 7:48pm
i chuckled a little when i saw this thread.



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toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 7:50pm
blue are you any good at soloing?



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Feb 24,2008 7:50pm
no, but ive been working on getting my necrophagist scales down though.



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toggletoggle post by action hero at Feb 24,2008 7:51pm
hahaha, necrophagist scale > nile scale w000t



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Feb 24,2008 7:53pm
Muhammed goes back in time with Petrucci and watches the caved00ds' reactions to them appearing out of nowhere and gets inspired by the troglodytic confusion and chaos. hence Necrophagist's last album



toggletoggle post by martins   at Feb 24,2008 7:54pm edited Feb 24,2008 7:54pm
action%20hero said[orig][quote]
that said, archaeon is the best guitarist to have responded so far.... next to me obviously.


Grant is a better guitarist than Muhammad. He wrote all of the Necrophagist songs like ten years ago. Muhammad hacked his computer, got his guitar pro files and started Necrophagist.
That being said, Necrophagist only plays in Archaeon scales.



toggletoggle post by archaeon at Feb 24,2008 8:08pm
I am muhammad



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 24,2008 8:46pm
the scale of special k



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Feb 24,2008 8:50pm
special K with those dehydrated strawberries? MmMmMmMmMmmm



toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Feb 24,2008 10:14pm
Fuck Muhammad. Homely cocksucker is lucky he can shred. If homeboy wasn't a thoroughbred roundmouth, I'd have masturbation-grade video footage of Decapitated's last set at the Palladium. Tourmates mock him and his own label can barely tolerate that Turkish midget dicklicker.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Feb 25,2008 5:24pm
haha goatman!



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 25,2008 6:14pm
Neapolitan! That's as far as I need to read.
Necrophagist have really tough riffs.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 25,2008 6:16pm
metric



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 25,2008 6:30pm
archaeon said[orig][quote]
Muhammad doesn't use "scales" he just writes what sounds good.


SCALES ARE FOR THE INFIDEL

ALLAH ACKBAR



toggletoggle post by NIGGER  at Feb 25,2008 10:18pm
THERE IS ONLY ONE SCALE
THE PENTATONIC

THE REST OF YOU ARE JUST FAKING IT

THE BLACK MAN INVENTED BLUES, METAL AND JAZZ

WHITEY INVENTED EMO
ICK

BLACK POWER!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 25,2008 11:49pm
I SEE YOU'VE TYPED YOUR RESPONSE IN ALL CAPS.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 26,2008 11:00am
Nigger always writes in all caps.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 26,2008 8:13pm
Whitney invented the cotton gin.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Feb 26,2008 8:19pm
a black dude invented peanut butter



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 26,2008 8:23pm edited Feb 26,2008 8:23pm
no. I'm pretty sure it was invented by the same guy who invented corn flakes. Who was white.



toggletoggle post by NIGGER  at Feb 26,2008 9:45pm
WHAT WHITEY WILL DO TO DENY BLACK GENIUS:

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

THE BLACK MAN INVENTED CIVILIZATION
THE PENTATONIC SCALE
PROBABLY HARMONY
AND DEFINITELY HEAVY METAL

WHITEY JUST WANTS TO OCCUPY IT
BECAUSE HE IS WEAK
AND HAS SMALL WANGS

BLACK POWER!

PS - LOWERCASE IS WHITEY'S CONFORMITY TO ENSLAVE THE BLACK MAN



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Feb 26,2008 9:52pm
black mans website exceeding bandwidth, big surprise. Had to pay child support this month.



toggletoggle post by NIGGER  at Feb 27,2008 10:15pm
WHAT
I AIN'T PAYING THAT SHIT

BLACK POWER!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 28,2008 9:41am
people who spend time learning scales are the shit. When you familiarize yourself with scales you learn the particular emotion that they convey, which all scales do in varying ways, and the more of them you know, the better you can express a particular riff.



toggletoggle post by passerby'er at Feb 28,2008 10:17am
It's all about
5 8
5 8
5 7
5 7
5 7
5 8

All day everyday. Pentatonic powers rules and Zakk wylde uses this scale religiously like a science so I'm all over that shit.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Feb 28,2008 10:18am
Don't forget to throw in shameless use of pinch harmonics to round off that wonderful style of playing.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 28,2008 10:40am
Yeah and Zakk Wylde is God right? Think I'm gonna pick myself up a bullseye les paul with EMG's and start trying to play some rock. Fuck death metal.

In other words, I couldn't care less about Zakk Wylde.



toggletoggle post by passerby‘er at Feb 28,2008 10:49am
Zakk is a great accomplished musician. He pretty much refined pinch harmonics and they're definately his signature. Don't be jealous you didn't think of it first. If you met zakk you'd probably shit your pants, tell him how good he is and beg for an autograph. Keep dreaming on the RTTP and zakk will continue to make a living doin music getting paid for it while your band is lucky to make 80 bucks at obriens



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 28,2008 11:10am
passerby‘er said[orig][quote]
Zakk is a great accomplished musician. He pretty much refined pinch harmonics and they're definately his signature. Don't be jealous you didn't think of it first. If you met zakk you'd probably shit your pants, tell him how good he is and beg for an autograph. Keep dreaming on the RTTP and zakk will continue to make a living doin music getting paid for it while your band is lucky to make 80 bucks at obriens


I actually walk around with my pants full of feces just in case I happen to meet Zakk Wylde. So far it hasn't come up, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 28,2008 11:15am
passerby‘er said[orig][quote]
Zakk is a great accomplished musician. He pretty much refined pinch harmonics and they're definately his signature. Don't be jealous you didn't think of it first. If you met zakk you'd probably shit your pants, tell him how good he is and beg for an autograph. Keep dreaming on the RTTP and zakk will continue to make a living doin music getting paid for it while your band is lucky to make 80 bucks at obriens


I'm pretty sure Zakk Wylde didn't make the pinch harmonic, and I'm also pretty sure that about 90% of the bands I listen to have more talent than Zakk Wylde ever will. So in other words Zakk Wylde can blow me.



toggletoggle post by passerby‘er at Feb 28,2008 11:31am
It's all about how many tix you can sell and I'd venture to say zakk fills more seats than 100% of the bands you listen to combined. Zakk is a shred god virtuoso and he has the rock star looks to go with it. 100% of the bands you listen to look like something out of a horror movie or just retards dressing up like its halloween and they've had such difficult lives. Plus zakk can sing and i'm sure 100% of the bands you listen to have a singer that crawls out of a trash can demanding cookies. Get over it. Zakk has it all.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Feb 28,2008 11:36am
HaHaha -- why is anybody arguing with this guy?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 28,2008 12:42pm
Classic poster.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 28,2008 4:56pm
That's the biggest boast I've ever heard about anybody.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Feb 28,2008 6:09pm
LFAZ is right, not even gonna bother with this kid anymore.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Feb 28,2008 6:53pm
immortal13 said[orig][quote]
LFAZ is right, not even gonna bother with this kid anymore.


it's a troll



toggletoggle post by Way2Troll at Dec 31,2013 5:59pm
Looks like this thread managed to mess up cha cha

http://www.chacha.com/question/what-kind-o...ales-does-the-band-necrophagist-use

"Necrophagist only plays in Archaeon scales, which is basically a wide range of time scales. ChaCha again soon!"



toggletoggle post by DYA DEPARTMENT OF DYA at Dec 31,2013 6:56pm
*bro fist*



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