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you are ab-using [QUOTE]blah blah blah[/QUOTE] to reply to Conservationist.
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[QUOTE="Conservationist:954440"][QUOTE="Hoser:954326"]All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder people try to succeed the greater their reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no one will try or succeed.[/QUOTE] Not just governments; parents can do it to their kids too. It's a point bigger than socialism versus capitalism, and honestly, capitalism has the same problem with it to some degree. It's the problem of human groupthink, the same entropy that damns all societies: when good work is no longer recognized, apathy reigns, and then infrastructures of various sorts decay. You need a value system in common for people to point to an action and say it's good or bad; no values are inherent -- they must be chosen, and culture is that choice. [/QUOTE]
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